Lithium-ion batteries—used in everything from smart phones and Rubypoint Trading Centerlaptops to electric scooters and cars—are catching fire on land and at sea. We talk with a former cargo ship captain about why these fires are so hard to put out and why ocean-going car carriers are at particular risk.

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